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CNN Republican Debate: Crowd Has to BEG Moderators to Ask Ron Paul a Question

Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:39 PM EST
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By Lisa Schneider
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While CNN pundits spent a lot of time defending asking Newt Gingrinch about his ex-wife’s interview after the debate tonight, they should be asking themselves…why did we not give Ron Paul equal time (ANY time) tonight? The answer to that is obvious: they too, like FOX News, are giving preferential treatment to their pick…and they are all for the guy who cannot win against Obama…Romney. Between starting off debate with that nonsensical question to Newt, they then summarily ignored Ron Paul almost entirely on all ensuing questions. To which the crowd had to INSIST Paul be asked a question! 

When you ask yourself, hmmmm, who should I vote for? The answer is obvious: whomever the media is deliberately trying to either trash, or silence. As ’08 showed us…Obama is not in either category. As this cycle is showing us…neither is Romney. 

No matter which side of the aisle you are on, vote for the guy MSM trashes/ignores most, and we might just get a President that restores our faith in politics, and in ourselves. 

Ron Paul for President…or pull the lever for Newt. Either will be better than Obama, and I’m a Democrat.

 

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Lisa Schneider

Totally disgusted tonight...when the audience has to boo and yell out "ask Paul" to get them to give a candidate notice is abhorrent...and I believe this should be appalling to every single one of us, no matter our side of the aisle...it is up to us to make it stop, and I applaud that audience tonight.

  • 5 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:44 PM EST
Chris82mil

It just couldn't be that Ron Paul is as crazy and irrelevantas ever now could it?

  • 7 votes
#1.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:10 PM EST
lovemyplanet-400560

It just couldn't be that Ron Paul is as crazy and irrelevantas ever now could it?

No actually, it couldn't. The global hegemony only wants you to think so and are using their media, both main stream and "alternative", to spread that message. He is the only one who makes any sense whatsoever of any of the presidential hopefuls including the sitting incumbent. There is not one thing crazy about his message, one of natural rights and responsibilities vs. victimhood and dependency. It is the message of real hope and change, the change America needs.

  • 5 votes
#1.2 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:32 PM EST
Linda Luke

Lisa, I believe you are onto something here, Ron Paul is being terrorized by the media and folks that only think he is a crazy and irrelevant and the real problem as I see it is someone very high up isn't going to allow Ron Paul to be elected. I say to that ............LISTEN to Ron Paul, look at the history of things that happened that make our foreign policies of the past haunt us. Why do we have a problem with Iran? The United States of America is the biggest terrorist on this planet we call Earth thanks to the many politicians and financers of those wars for PROFIT. All the American people have gotten are dead Sons and Fathers. It's time to stop the nonsense of the government. AT LEAST get the education that Ron Paul is trying to give us all. There isn't a chance in hell the people will be allowed to elect him. And I'm not so sure we want another assasinated President as the Federal Reserve wouldn't have Ron Paul putting them out of business.

  • 4 votes
#1.3 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:58 PM EST
Marshall James

I think people will see how wrong they were come about 2015. I hope the revolution comes when I am still alive....i do not want to miss it.....and I want to be there for my family.

that is the one thing i hope for ...an intellectual revolution in this country towards freedom.

  • 4 votes
#1.4 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:20 AM EST
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Lisa Schneider

CoH please...

  • 3 votes
#2 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:47 PM EST
Lisa Schneider

CNN's John King: "The reason Romney stumbles in debates is becuase he has been so consstent in performing in these debates the entire campaign."

Ohhhh, now I get it...was wondering why he stumbles!

  • 3 votes
#2.1 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:57 PM EST
AngryWhiteMan63

The problem is, there are too many idiots who are allowed to vote who will actually believe that statement.

  • 3 votes
#2.2 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:03 PM EST
Lisa Schneider

Oy vey...you are so right. I was guilty of listening to tripe last election...fully admit my stupidity.

  • 5 votes
#2.3 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:15 PM EST
AngryWhiteMan63

This is how I see it.

I like Ron Paul. I like his platform, and I think he's just radical enough to do the radical things we need to get this country back on track. But then again, I'm kinda radical myself.

The problem is, Paul has a radical reputation with the public. At the very beginning, people didn't take him seriously. In fact, the GOP was gearing up for a Paul win in Iowa by saying it wouldn't mean anything, that it would be a fluke. Any one else could win it and it would be a forecast, except Paul. That kinda pissed me off.

So while I like Paul, and would actually vote for him against Obama, I'm afraid he is not electable. And what we need is someone who is electable. That leaves the other three.

Romney is Obama-lite. I'm borrowing that from someone. He is too moderate to effect the actual change we need from the "change" of Obama. Not only that, but he will have a tough fight against Obama. Everyone knows from the media spin that he is the candidate they want to run against.

So that leaves us with Santorum and Gingrich. Both of them have pretty much the same platform. But Santorum doesn't have the experience that Gingrich does. And, Gingrich is so hated, it's obvious the Obama camp doesn't want to go up against him.

So while I like Paul, and would vote for him as the GOP candidate, I think Gingrich is more electable.

  • 3 votes
#2.4 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:53 PM EST
Lisa Schneider

Remember...pundits said Reagan and Carter were un-electable! I will pull lever for Gingrinch if it comes to that...and look very forward to watching those debates with Obama...that will be good stuff, and I think he would be strongest against Obama in that vein. I just can't give up on Paul cause MSM tells me to...hanging in there for long haul!

  • 4 votes
#2.5 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:02 PM EST
teresa-498430

One big difference, Ron Paul is unelectable. Or to put it another way he is as electable as Ross Perot was.

  • 2 votes
#2.6 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:38 PM EST
Lisa Schneider

Ross Perot was totally electable...until he imploded on himself. Ron Paul has never imploded on himself...way more steady...and more likened to Reagan's steady course in his election bid than Ross Perot.

Assuming is breaking another golden rule...

  • 3 votes
#2.7 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:54 PM EST
teresa-498430

Like I said Paul is electable as Perot was.

  • 2 votes
#2.8 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:57 PM EST
Lisa Schneider

Let's just take electability issue off table...would you vote for him on everything else?

  • 3 votes
#2.9 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:06 PM EST
teresa-498430

No I would not. Off the top of my head: I think some of his ideas appear to be good on the surface but fail miserably when looking at the entire picture. I don't agree with his racist newsletters ,and I oppose his stance on regulations because as long as humans are involved regulations are necessary. His idea of getting rid of getting rid of the department of education, energy and the EPA could be catastrophic for our country and our environment. And I vehemently oppose his stance on the uninsured; we are better than that in the US and we don't let someone die when they get sick because they chose not to buy insurance. Actually he is quite radical in his beliefs.

  • 2 votes
#2.10 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:26 PM EST
Lisa Schneider

Thanks for responding...so appreciate it! "His" racist newsletters...not his, but his name as publisher was on it. But after seeing him in hundreds of debated now...does he strike you as a racist?

The Dept of Education is ruining our kids' education...the No Kid Left Behind Bush started...let's just say if no govt interference, my child would have enjoyed the same quality education as I did. Energy? Lobbyists love it, and the Solyndras of the World, but do you really want govt dictating to you how you use energy or would you like to contiinue to make those choices yourself? Follow the money on that one...so many individuals and companies already way ahead of this...having a govt department only means more mandates on how and what we do for ourselves is on the way...ie Cap n Trade...you cannot want Cap n Trade right?

But Obama came out this past week saying pretty much the same thing as Paul...I felt he was stealing Paul's ideas....

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/01/13/145157412/reports-obama-to-seek-power-to-merge-agencies-streamline-government

Same in many respects....BUT if you are only worried about Paul becuase he will ACTUALLY do it, and you are okay with Obama because you know he says stuff and doesn't do it....then I understand. :)

  • 5 votes
#2.11 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:48 PM EST
AngryWhiteMan63

Good Debate!

Actually he is quite radical in his beliefs.

I tend to agree with that. What I was trying to say earlier is that radical is what we need to change course. I have no faith that if he were elected all of his radical ideas would come to pass. We are supposed to have a check and balance system of government (although the last two and maybe more administrations have trounced all over that). He would need complete support of the Congress to effect all of his changes. I don't see that happening, unless America pulls their collective heads out of their collective asses and gets rid of the DC establishment.

But if he were elected, some things would change, I believe. I think we would not see a debt ceiling getting raised every few months. I think he would not put up with interim budgets, and would not be afraid of telling the government to shut down because pansy Congressmen can't get funding approved for pet projects in the federal budget.

Those are the radical things I would like to see.

  • 5 votes
#2.12 - Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:45 AM EST
teresa-498430

BUT if you are only worried about Paul becuase he will ACTUALLY do it, and you are okay with Obama because you know he says stuff and doesn't do it....then I understand. :)

Nop....., guess you don't understand what I was saying.

  • 3 votes
#2.13 - Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:57 AM EST
Lisa Schneider

Then can you help me understand better? I dont understand...can you answer what I pointed out in my post? Obama is now promoting merging those very agencies Ron Paul said to eliminate...so how is Ron Paul "extreme" and Obama is not for "taking" Ron Paul idea? I would suggest...Obama is giving false hope again where he will promise to do, and then do something to prevent and do the exact opposite...that's extreme, not Paul who would actually do.

  • 4 votes
#2.14 - Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:48 PM EST
teresa-498430

Merging those agencies in order to eliminate duplicity is a sound decision. Mothballing 5 agencies is radical and would not be in the best interest of the country or most Americans. It would however benefit the 1% because at the expense of the middle class and those working to reach it.

so how is Ron Paul "extreme" and Obama is not for "taking" Ron Paul idea?

roflmao. Everybody knows that their plans are not the same; not even close. But nice try.

...Obama is giving false hope again

that's right you did not get your bail out..............

  • 1 vote
#2.15 - Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:22 AM EST
Marshall James

teresa

please tell me the function of the department of education.

  • 4 votes
#2.16 - Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:37 AM EST
teresa-498430

look it up.

  • 2 votes
#2.17 - Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:58 AM EST
Marshall James

you are the one stating that it would be our best interest to keep it.....lets hear what its vital function??? especially since it hasnt been around that long...and especially since before it was created we were leading the world...and since its creation we have slowly fallen down the ladder in education.

Please I would really love to know what it actually does besides bring our country down...as all evidence shows.

  • 4 votes
#2.18 - Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:39 AM EST
upswing

Marshall James:

please tell me the function of the department of education.

National consistency of brainwashing kids to grow up believing that it's patriotic to sit down and shut up when people in "authority" (i.e. the banking class and its minions) tell you to do things that make no sense, hurt your own interests, or offend your sensibilities.

  • 5 votes
#2.19 - Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:45 AM EST
Marshall James

yes no independent thought or diversity...just robotic clones....all the same.

gozo unlimited had a great article with video on this about a week ago....an interview with reggie middleton...did you catch that one??

  • 5 votes
#2.20 - Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:52 AM EST
teresa-498430

eye roll x 3

  • 2 votes
#2.21 - Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:18 AM EST
upswing

Marshall James:

gozo unlimited had a great article with video on this about a week ago....an interview with reggie middleton...did you catch that one??

No. But I'll check it out.

Thanks.

    #2.22 - Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:53 AM EST
    upswing

    teresa:

    eye roll x 3

    Perhaps, if your eyes weren't so busy rolling around inside your head, you'd see more of what's actually going on outside your head.

    Just a suggestion.

    • 2 votes
    #2.23 - Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:54 AM EST
    teresa-498430

    ouch!

    • 1 vote
    #2.24 - Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:05 PM EST
    Reply
    sambonner

    John King is a dimwit, probably the worst newsman on television. He very much proved that tonight.

    And,I am no fan of Ron Paul, but he was treated very unfairly. The incompetent King let the other three respond to anything any of them said, and he repeatedly lost track of the time allotted for a topic.

    Ron Paul cultists have every right to be upset.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#3 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:26 PM EST
    Mike-1499840

    I am not a Ron Paul fan...but having to be browbeaten by the audience to allow the only Doctor to answer a question about a medical procedure was pretty bad.

    Regards,

    Mike

    • 7 votes
    Reply#4 - Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:56 PM EST
    Charmonium

    I was so damn proud of the people at that debate tonight! SO proud!

    The sad thing is is that in the post-debate (AC 360) Ron Paul was not mentioned for about 53 minutes!!! When he was mentioned, Anderson Cooper said, "Ron Paul, we haven't mentioned him much; he's in it for the long haul". That's it! After 53 minutes, that's all they said about Dr. Paul. Talk about being biased. This is why the media is losing credibility.

    • 5 votes
    Reply#5 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:57 AM EST
    Marshall James

    the media is doing everythign they can to silence him.

    I do not know how people cannot see this....I just cant....and if they do see it...why they do not question why???

    • 5 votes
    #5.1 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:18 AM EST
    Lisa Schneider

    And unfortunately, the day belonged to Gringrinch today...only upside, is it did not belong to Romney.

    • 4 votes
    #5.2 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:19 PM EST
    Reply
    jfxgillis

    Lisa:

    They'd have done him a favor to skip him.

    How many people knew he was a regulation anti-reproductive-rights Christian right-wing @!$%#er until he answered that question?

    • 8 votes
    Reply#6 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:21 AM EST
    Chasing

    But if he hadn't answered the question, he would have been able to laugh at Santorum and call him "sensitive", which I very much enjoyed.

    • 7 votes
    #6.1 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:25 AM EST
    Reply
    Lisafrequency

    No matter what the media says or does not say:

    Ron Paul 2012

    • 4 votes
    Reply#7 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:12 AM EST
    upswing

    The military indusrtial media, which includes public broadcasting, has clearly adopted an ignore-Paul policy.

    I even heard my local NPR station refer to Romney as the "presumptie GOP candidate" -- yesterday! when we've had just two "primaries," and Romney won just one of them.

    There is a whole slew of Paul supporters who are now beginning to understand just how incestuous this country is at the "top," including the cosy relationship that exists between big Gov. and big Media.

    In the long run, this is a net plus, since more people are going to turn away from the military industrial media and all that it supports and realize the good sense in what you say:

    No matter which side of the aisle you are on, vote for the guy MSM trashes/ignores most, and we might just get a President that restores our faith in politics, and in ourselves.

    • 5 votes
    Reply#8 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:20 AM EST
    Lisa Schneider

    Bill O'Reilly tomgiht: "I'd talk about Ron Paul, but we just don't think he's going to get nomination...I want be fair, but I don't have enough time."

    • 3 votes
    #8.1 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:29 PM EST
    Lisafrequency

    From what i have seen of his rallies in SC he might just do much better than the media is projecting.

    Florida too has I much stronger support than was previously thought.

    • 3 votes
    #8.2 - Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:06 AM EST
    Reply
    fitzsc

    These are Republican Debates controlled by Republicans, with rules setup by Republicans. I agree Ron Paul should be brought into the discussion but do not fault the Supposed Liberal media or some grand conspiracy when all you have to do is set a rule that requires candidates be ask questions in order. Whine Whine Whine.

    • 1 vote
    Reply#9 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:46 AM EST
    sambonner

    The CNN employee decided who got to talk, in what order. Period.

    • 3 votes
    #9.1 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:25 AM EST
    fitzsc

    If you believe that Republicans cannot set the rules in a Republican Primary for a Republican debate between Republican candidates you deserve some kind of award from the Tea Party for the most kool aid drank... It is real apparent that the National party believes its Mitt or Newt They do not support Ron Paul therefore do not care if he's sidelined. If they cared they would establish rules for the debates that would provide equal opportunity to speak.

    • 1 vote
    #9.2 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:23 PM EST
    Lisa Schneider

    there were no rules for last night...if there were, they were completely ignored....Romney, one minute?!!! Puh-lease.

    • 3 votes
    #9.3 - Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:16 PM EST
    fitzsc

    How many debates has there been ? and there is no rules yet ? who's fault is that? I can remember several news cycles that reported candidates being ignored during the debate including the ever popular Bachmann. If the National Republican Party was Interested they would set rules to include all the candidates, Simple! its just not the press's job.

      #9.4 - Sat Jan 21, 2012 3:56 AM EST
      Lisafrequency

      Simple! its just not the press's job.

      No it is the press's job to tell you who is going to win and keep hammering that every chance they get. the press does have an opportunity to show no bias but I see no chance of that happening either.

      • 2 votes
      #9.5 - Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:18 AM EST
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      bestquest

      Listen to our young people. Ron Paul has their attention. They are interested in the real issues - like war in afghan and iran, the economy, furthering their education, getting a job or career.

      We need to be able to see the future, plan now and work everyday to get there - safely.

      If overweight, lazy baby boomers want to just enjoy their leisure, it is OK. The sooner they move to permanent non-employment, the better. Because better people are coming up the ladder.

      If Ron Paul becomes the candidate, and wins, who comes into his white house? He has to hire about 450 to 500 managers for the executive branch. Likely better people than under g2 or obama is my guess.

      • 1 vote
      Reply#10 - Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:15 PM EST
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